1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,600 ALL RESEARCH DISPLAYED PERFORMED BY SOSA AND THE POLICE 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,640 THE PROGRAM DOES NOT DISPLAY ALL THE EVIDENCE- 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,880 - ASSOCIATED WITH THE CASES AND DISPLAYED NOT NECESSARILY CHRONOLOGICAL 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,040 THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE SECTION- 5 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:15,760 -DUE TO PRIVACY. THE JUDGMENT MAY BE CHANGED OR REDUCED 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,120 PERSONS ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN TO THE CONTRARY 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,440 HI, ASL? 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,640 12 YEARS OLD, FEMALE, IN YUKON, AND YOU? 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,440 44 YEARS OLD, MALE, TULSA AREA 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,480 DO YOU HAVE A WORK? 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:43,400 YES, I AM A KNIFE MAKER. DO YOU LIKE OLDER MEN? 12 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:47,200 YES, THE BOYS IN THE CLASS ARE IMMATURE 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,000 WHAT ARE YOU DOING TODAY? 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,720 There is a new adult, who contact children. The knife maker. 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:00,880 We don't have much information. Fake username and a screenshot. 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,960 He has contacted Abby and communicates with her on Instagram. 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:11,240 The conversation immediately turned sexual. He wants to meet Abby today. 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,440 He is 44 and trying to meet a 12-year-old on the same day. 19 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,520 I think he does it often. I don't want to waste time. 20 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,200 We have the chat. Maybe Matt can find something there. 21 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:28,000 We'll see if we can identify him. I have sent Major Flowers- 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,440 -the preliminary proofs, but will send a waterproof identification. 23 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,920 Parents often think that grooming 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,040 -is something that happens over months and weeks. 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,160 They think, “I wanted to feel something different about my child." 26 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,920 "I'm not worried about that." 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Average time to groom a child is eight minutes. 28 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,000 That's as long as it takes takes to load the dishwasher... 29 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,640 -...while your child is upstairs. - I think I have him. 30 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,320 Adults exploit and abuse children online every day. 31 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,800 - The decoy is underway. - My name is Roo Powell. 32 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,960 I run SOSA, a nonprofit organization. We work with police 33 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,240 -to stop pedophiles. 34 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,040 We make ourselves the target to protect minors. 35 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,440 SOSA HEADQUARTERS 36 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,920 SOSA contacted us about Knivmageren. He is a 44-year-old man. 37 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,040 SOSA comes with resources, which the police do not have. 38 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:48,480 They have expertise to go on social media, use video chat 39 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,960 - and get hold of information, which can strengthen our case- 40 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,840 -so we can imprison criminals for a long time. 41 00:02:55,920 --> 00:03:01,760 He gave up on SOSA's 12-year-old decoy in a sexual way. 42 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,360 He also sent obscene pictures. 43 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,120 He is very aggressive. He is not affected by the fact that he actually- 44 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,640 -talking to a 12-year-old. It just makes him more excited. 45 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:19,200 He will meet in the parking lot. Roo keeps in touch. 46 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,560 SOSA gave us pictures of a rifle, he has in his possession- 47 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:27,600 - as well as several knives. He will be armed and dangerous. 48 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,360 We must be prepared and vigilant, when we arrest him. 49 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:37,960 We have 40 minutes to get there before him, let's get ready. 50 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,160 NAME: THE KNIFEMAKER 51 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,040 ATTEMPTED ADULTERY WITH A MINOR 52 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,720 PENALTIES: TEN YEARS IN PRISON IDENTITY: KNOWN 53 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,240 I WANT TO KISS YOU AND RUB YOURSELF ON... 54 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,440 - I DON'T HAVE BREASTS YET - FINE WITH ME 55 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,760 He sure is dangerous. There is tensions linked to the meeting- 56 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,480 -he will soon have. The stress level will be loud if he shows up. 57 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,280 He has access to quite a few weapons. We're not taking any chances today. 58 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,280 He drives into the parking lot. 59 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,160 - Was it him who passed? - Yes. Okay, we're moving. 60 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,600 Hands up! Open the door! 61 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:42,280 Hands up! Hands up! Come out! 62 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:46,120 - Go back. Hands up. -Gun on hip. 63 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,080 Gun on hip. Step back. Hands up. 64 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,120 Take a step to the right. 65 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,240 - You don't move. Understood? -Yes. 66 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,560 45 caliber handgun with three magazines. He was heavily armed. 67 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,680 These are the firearms, Officer Dawson took from him. 68 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,160 Yes, the guns were loaded, and he had extra magazines. 69 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,200 And knives. That's why we take such apprehensions so seriously. 70 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,160 Had he chosen to shoot, it could have gone wrong for everyone. 71 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,640 -Are you okay? -Yes. 72 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,200 -Do you have palpitations? - I'm thinking about that guy... 73 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,600 -...who talks to a 12-year-old. -Think what he would have done. 74 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,720 You have spoken to a person via social media? 75 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:39,960 I spoke to one earlier today. She said she was from the Yukon. 76 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,840 -Did she say her age? - 12 years. 77 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,680 I didn't want to implement it. 78 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,640 But my wife is out of town, and I was just having a little fun. 79 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,720 - What device are you using? - Only my iPad there. 80 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,360 - Can I see it? -Yes. 81 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,160 Do you have pictures of minors on it? 82 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,600 -No. -Can I have a quick look? 83 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,480 That's fine. They are not minors. Get them online. 84 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,760 Do you think it looks like a who are over 18? 85 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:16,120 No. 86 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,320 I got to see his phone. He had child porn 87 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,160 -in the "deleted" folder on the phone. 88 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,400 Absolutely. He is apprehended for possession of child pornography. 89 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,400 It took five hours. But he had to be apprehended. 90 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,480 The charge against him was just expanded. A good catch. 91 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,280 We understood immediately, that the Knifemaker was very dangerous. 92 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:52,240 We could identify him and get arranged a meeting. And five hours later- 93 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,320 - is he arrested. That is the best possible result. 94 00:06:59,000 --> 00:06:59,250 95 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,280 AGE 96 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,920 I'M 12 AND YOU? 97 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,160 27 98 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,640 ARE YOU A MODEL? YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL 99 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,440 WISH I WAS. HOW CUTE YOU ARE! 100 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,720 KLAM BRANCH, SO WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE OLDER 101 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,920 I KNOW THE MODELING INDUSTRY 102 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,160 I HAVE LOOKED INTO IT AND SEE MY SHADOW 103 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,760 WHAT DO YOU MEAN? 104 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,760 I WAS ALWAYS TOLD THAT I WAS CUTE- 105 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,920 - BUT I WAS NAIVE AND DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE SHADOW. 106 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,880 I'M SWEET BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT I AM CAPABLE OF. 107 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,000 WHAT ARE YOU CAPABLE OF? 108 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,880 MY SHADOW WANTS IMMORAL THINGS, BUT I CAN MANAGE IT. 109 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,200 I WARN INSTEAD OF. 110 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,320 I KNOW THE CHILD MODEL INDUSTRY. 111 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,800 THEY DO THINGS WITH THE MODELS AFTER. 112 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,440 -ARE SEXUAL THINGS OK WITH YOU? - I HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING. 113 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:59,520 I CAN TEACH YOU SO YOU ARE NOT OFFENDED. 114 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:06,400 A man contacted Abby on Instagram and was behaving strangely. 115 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:11,120 He says he doesn't like it pedophiles and he is protective- 116 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,440 -in front of Abby. He answered one man's comment on her post. 117 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:22,440 -"She is not 18. Minor." -A strange knight on a white horse. 118 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,600 He is an interesting character. 119 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,200 He appears quickly as a rescuer. 120 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,600 A savior on the web means he warns her- 121 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,640 -against the dangers that occur online, when it is he who is dangerous. 122 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,440 But since he is honest about it, is he suddenly an ally. 123 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,920 -How old is he? -27. He says so. 124 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,280 -Okay. What is the address? -Arkansas. 125 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,640 -Why did he look in Oklahoma? - Work brings him there. 126 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,200 -What does he work on? -Truck driver. 127 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,600 Can you see his Instagram profile? 128 00:08:55,680 --> 00:09:01,680 No, it's fake. It has none post and only one follower. Abby. 129 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,960 I look at it with Shelby and Jordan. 130 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,360 -Okay, thanks. -Thanks. 131 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,480 Let's find this guy. 132 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:12,240 I WOULD KILL PAEDOPHILES, IF NECESSARY... 133 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,320 “I wanted to kill pedophiles if necessary- 134 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,960 -but I know it's in my family. I can't kill myself." 135 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,680 I WANT TO PROTECT CHILDREN... 136 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,160 "That shadow..." I think he's talking about pedophilia. 137 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,600 "...is in my family. I'm nice and want to protect children." 138 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:37,640 I guess he says he's hooked to be attracted to and to harm children. 139 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:44,080 But he also feels for to chastise people like himself. 140 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:49,240 i feel that he just wants to build trust. 141 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,040 He is open about that he also has a dark side. 142 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,400 This "shadow", which he must control. 143 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,280 It is an insidious form of grooming. He says he should be the- 144 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:06,240 -who does all the sexual things, because I want to be nice. 145 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,640 NAME: THE SHADOW 146 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,120 POSSIBLE CHARGE: ATTEMPT PRODUCE WITH A MINOR 147 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,640 PENALTIES: TEN YEARS IN PRISON IDENTITY: UNKNOWN 148 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,960 FINE WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO DATE ME SO I CAN TEACH YOU ABOUT SEX 149 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,080 -WHAT IS NICE? -TO BE YOUR BOYFRIEND. 150 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,280 I DATED A 14 YEAR OLD NOBODY LIKED IT. 151 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,880 I don't like this. 152 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,560 WANT TO VIDEO CHAT? 153 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,600 -He wants to video chat. -Is Isabel going to get ready? 154 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,400 He once dated a 14-year-old girl. 155 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:41,760 It is disturbing. We have to identify him very quickly. 156 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,400 -WHAT ABOUT FACETIME? -OK, GIVE ME THE NUMBER 157 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,440 -Hello? -Yes? 158 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,320 I suggested FaceTime. He said, "Okay, give me the number." 159 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,960 - How good. - It goes fast. 160 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,160 - Hello. -Hello. 161 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:08,840 - It's dark, but it's a bunk bed. - Absolutely fine. 162 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,840 Yes, I'm better at... 163 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,440 ...kissing than talking, so... -Oh. 164 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:26,720 -When are you going to Oklahoma? -I live in Arkansas, so... 165 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:35,440 I can try to meet you in the Yukon, if there is a rest area there. 166 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,160 I can swing by and see you. 167 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,440 Since I'm your girlfriend- 168 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,400 -can I see your Instagram? 169 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,560 -The real profile? -Yes. 170 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:52,960 -Fine. - Thank you. 171 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:58,480 I wasn't sure who you were first so i was… 172 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:01,560 - I know. -I'm adding you now. 173 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,040 -I followed you on the main account. -I'll follow you back. 174 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,280 Okay. Have you been together? with someone before, or? 175 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:17,480 - No, I haven't had a boyfriend. - It's fine with me. 176 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:21,640 We have his Instagram account and the number for the call. 177 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,000 We have now The shadow's full name and age. 178 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,600 This helps to make a complete identification. 179 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,280 - Abby. - I have to go, mother is calling me. 180 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,320 - Well done, Isabel. - We have his identity. 181 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,960 We have a phone number, which leads to a name. 182 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,760 The Instagram account leads us to more. 183 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,520 We have his YouTube channel, but we don't know where he is. 184 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,440 I found the LinkedIn profile. It says he's in Arizona. 185 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,120 But it has not been updated for a long time. 186 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,960 POLICE ARRESTS EIGHT FOR CHILD ABUSE 187 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,040 But... Is it him? 188 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:17,560 This is a page about a police action against pedophiles. 189 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,080 There is a picture and the same name and it looks like him. 190 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,400 Oh god, it's him. 191 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,360 He said, people got mad because of the 14 year old. 192 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,640 -Yes. - I think he was taken then. 193 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,040 -Operation Vampire Cough, 2020. - August 2020. 194 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,040 “Mesa police arrest eight in secret operation against pedophiles." 195 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,520 He was charged with attempted sexual assault dealing with minors 196 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,720 -and grossly enticing behavior. 197 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,320 He was arrested in August 2020 and is out again? 198 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:53,200 - We have to see if he is registered. -Check Arkansas, I'll take Arizona. 199 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,720 SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY IN ARIZONA 200 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,440 PUBLIC PORTAL 201 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:00,920 SEX OFFENDER REGISTRIES 202 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,320 FOUND ZERO CRIMINALS 203 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:05,760 - I didn't find anything in Arkansas. -Zero criminals in Arizona. 204 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,600 He should be on the register, if he was arrested. 205 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:13,120 He is not on the register. His case has not been decided. 206 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,840 We see the arrest, but no consequences. 207 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:22,520 And he is now out to abuse again, after he was arrested for it. 208 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,960 I feel like I'm going to throw up. 209 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:34,880 It feels pointless then. When this guy- 210 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,960 -who was arrested for assault, actively abusing children now. 211 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:45,640 It is unacceptable. They commit crimes, harming children and young people 212 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:51,960 -and traumatizes children, and they can just get on with it. 213 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,160 This is an important matter. He has a pattern of behavior. 214 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,120 It is a concern that a first-time offender 215 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,960 -related to a major operation, not get a long prison sentence. 216 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:10,120 He might get probation or less judgment, but nothing extensive. 217 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,560 He hasn't learned his lesson. He's going to jail. 218 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,920 do you think shall we keep the conversation going? 219 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,880 I want to keep his attention, for he does this often. 220 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:26,360 Tomorrow the CCSO can look into it and say what we must do. 221 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,280 "MACKENZIE" AGE OF THE COOK: 14 222 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,720 -HELLO, M21 -HELLO, F14 223 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,000 YOU ARE A MINOR 224 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,040 I REALLY SHOULD NOT TALK TO YOU 225 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,840 I have a conversation with a possible violator, we call the Player. 226 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,920 Jake and I found out that he plays World of Warcraft. 227 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,360 He has spoken to a he thinks is Mackenzie- 228 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,440 - which is our 14-year-old decoy. 229 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,440 WE CAN BE FRIENDS UP TO YOU TO DO THE GROWN THING 230 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,200 IF YOU WANT IT TO BE BETWEEN US 231 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,480 WE ONLY DO THINGS IF YOU WANT TO OTHERWISE WE WILL LEAVE 232 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,320 OKAY! YOU ARE SWEET TO ME 233 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,360 The whole conversation is grooming. What is disturbing about the- 234 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:23,480 -is that the Player will get her to say that she wants it. 235 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:29,160 That it's her fault. Mackenzie is 14 and has no freedom of action- 236 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,480 -or manner of consent, so all this is illegal. 237 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,040 We have a new possible violator, we call the Player. 238 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,240 He is 21 years old. He told us his "name". 239 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:47,160 He works in a shop with office supplies. We know the name. 240 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,120 It is typical grooming. He builds break her up and break her down. 241 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,040 I WANT YOUR CONSENT I DO NOT PRESS 242 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,280 Yesterday, when we chatted, he said: “I want us to prove- 243 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,760 -that we are who we say we are. We can't be sure enough- 244 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,880 - you can be undercover agent." 245 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,160 The player communicates in a way that which seems rehearsed. 246 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,520 He asks for pictures and proof of, that she is who she says. 247 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,880 He grooms a 14-year-old in a specific way- 248 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,960 -which makes us think he did this before or will do it again. 249 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,320 NAME: THE PLAYER 250 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,120 POSSIBLE CHARGE: ATTEMPT PRODUCE WITH A MINOR 251 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,000 PENALTIES: TEN YEARS IN PRISON IDENTITY: UNKNOWN 252 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,320 WHAT KIND OF PICTURE DO YOU WANT? 253 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,280 TAKE PICTURE WITH PEACE SIGN ON THE TERRACE 254 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,520 He just sent a picture. In real time, as he requested. 255 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,800 -He communicates a lot. -Extremely much. 256 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,760 Yes, it's on his terrace. 257 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,800 It can help if we know the general neighborhood. 258 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,800 -We can use Google Street View. -Has he talked about sex with her? 259 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:57,280 Yes. He has spoken to her in a thoroughly sexual way. 260 00:17:57,360 --> 00:18:00,480 "What I want is is a picture from the bathroom." 261 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,080 -"With a wide smile and a peace sign." - We can do that. 262 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,040 - We can certainly do that. -Hey, Alisha, your turn. 263 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,840 - Get the toilet in the background. -Okay. 264 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,480 Can you do it? 265 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,080 We want to build as much trust as possible now. 266 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,320 - Perfect. -Well. 267 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,280 YOU LOOK VERY CUTE 268 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:27,800 I HAVE TO GO TO WORK TALK TO YOU LATER 269 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,280 OKAY, CALM DOWN 270 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:34,600 He is at work right now and will be finished in a few hours. 271 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,160 He has already broken the law. But the store- 272 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,120 -is part of a chain, so it can be one of many. 273 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,640 -Yes. -Okay. We should do the following… 274 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,920 It is worth a trip. We share us up and make two different ones. 275 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,240 - We do it. -Yes. 276 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,880 The chain has five stores in the area, where the Player works. 277 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:01,320 We only have one hour before his shift is finished. The team splits up. 278 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,080 Matt and Shelby are in a car, and me and Jordan in another. 279 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:09,600 - He has a special appearance. -Big beard. 280 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,640 -Glasses. We know he has brown hair. -Yes. 281 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,280 LOCATION 1 282 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:17,040 We'll take a look. 283 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,320 Nothing. He's not here. 284 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,840 We should try somewhere else. 285 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,920 - It has to be here somewhere. -Okay, come on. 286 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,640 LOCATION 2 287 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,800 Nothing so far. Here are three people. 288 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,120 - It was fruitless. - She said he's not here. 289 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,120 Shall we call the store and ask, is he at work? 290 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,120 - But we don't know his name. - It's worth the try. 291 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,400 - Hello. - Hi, I stopped by the other day. 292 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:12,120 I was supposed to have printer ink, but I have forgot what the employee said. 293 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,920 I wonder if he is at work. I think his name was... 294 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,120 - No, he doesn't work here. - Okay, thanks. 295 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,000 - It's probably the wrong shop. - We'll call someone else. 296 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,800 Hello, it's..., what can i help with? 297 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,560 The sound is muted. 298 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,280 - Did he say...? Shall we drive there? -Yes. Just hang up. 299 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,800 We'll tell Roo. 300 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,760 - Hi, Matt. -Hello. We have called several... 301 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,880 -shops, and someone named... answered the phone. 302 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,640 - We haven't been there yet. -Send an SMS with the location. 303 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,320 -Okay, I'll send it now. - We should all drive there together. 304 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,680 The name he said is quite common. 305 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,200 There is a possibility that we will drive there, and he is not there. 306 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,920 But we have no other clues, so we have to try. 307 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,360 I am optimistic and hopeful. 308 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,080 This is a who come in the same environment as me. 309 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,920 He plays video games and maybe a bit of a geek. 310 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:22,200 Knowing that there are people in what I hope is a safe- 311 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:29,040 - and inviting environment that preys on wear and groom children- 312 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:31,880 -teenagers and young people, is very frustrating. 313 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:37,600 And I will do everything I can to make sure that doesn't happen. 314 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,040 Okay. There is always the danger of that we scare him- 315 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:43,400 -if he thinks people behave strangely. 316 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,600 We must enter as naturally as possible and just do a little shopping. 317 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,480 -Hello. - Do you need help with something? 318 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,040 Not right now. Thanks. 319 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,400 Jordan, that's him. 320 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,280 It's him. 321 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,250 322 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,400 They have parked here, so we can drive further. 323 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,640 -Roo is still in there. - Now we just have to wait. 324 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,560 Hello, I have a question. Do you think we can just… 325 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,120 Can we take a couple of chairs down to see how they are? 326 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,920 - Yes, okay. - Sorry. 327 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,000 - That's perfectly fine. -Thanks. 328 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,400 -Should I take it down? - Yes, one is enough. 329 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,200 I mean, the... Oh, sorry. 330 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,280 -She sent a video. It's him. -Oh, God. 331 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:56,240 I'll take a screenshot. 332 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,200 - Let me know if you need more help. - Yes, thank you very much. 333 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,880 It makes me depressed. 334 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,040 - Have a good time. -Thanks. In the same way. 335 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:20,680 It feels strange to face face with a violator. 336 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:26,040 I know who he is but not as a goal- 337 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:29,680 - but only as a citizen and customer. 338 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,760 Of course you want to believe, that people are fundamentally good. 339 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:40,120 That they may have ended up on an incline, but can easily change- 340 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,080 -and fix it. He has already broken the law. 341 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:52,440 I want to do something that makes people sorry, but I can't help it. 342 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,920 But I feel sorry for him. 343 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,680 I feel he's a young guy, which must be redirected. 344 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,040 But sometimes it can only happen via the long arm of the law. 345 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:09,600 I wish it wasn't so. What he is doing is wrong. 346 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:16,560 I hate that the only way is punishment, not rehabilitation. 347 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:23,640 We will report him and he will stay imprisoned for two to ten years. 348 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:30,640 What if someone said, “You may only talk to women over 18." 349 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:38,920 - That's all. -I understand. I feel sorry for him. 350 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:45,960 I have spoken to him and he seems a bit sad. "I'm an introvert- 351 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,560 -I don't have many friends, I don't go to bars and stuff like that." 352 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,840 "I hang out with friends, and we play video games.” 353 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,080 I would wish he did not do these things. 354 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,320 We must remember that we have a responsibility to relay everything. 355 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,360 We must not avoid that responsibility. 356 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,640 - But it makes me sad. -Yes, and it's human. 357 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,560 Am I happy that we identified the Player? Yes. 358 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,320 Am I happy with the consequences of all this? No. 359 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,440 On the phone he sounded mild and just as a guy- 360 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:26,000 -who works in a shop and trying to be helpful. He... 361 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,280 But then he talks about his penis, and what he wants to do with Mackenzie. 362 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,480 -Yes. Quite detailed. -If he wanted comfort... 363 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,560 ...could he have a comforter conversation, but he wants more. 364 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:45,120 He is in his early twenties. Regardless of age, it is immoral. 365 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,480 Everyone in their twenties is in many ways young and making stupid choices. 366 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,520 Having said that, it is illegal, and there's someone on the other end- 367 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,040 -who had been abused, if this was a real 14 year old. 368 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,880 SOSA HEADQUARTERS 369 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,560 NAME: THE SHADOW 370 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,920 ATTEMPTED FORNICATION WITH CHILDREN 371 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,280 IDENTITY: KNOWN 372 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:16,080 We never found out what happened after he was arrested. 373 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:21,080 We have not seen a warrant. He is not on the register. 374 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,480 He was arrested exactly two years ago. 375 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,040 We searched the registry, but there it is maybe something about the trial? 376 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:32,040 Search his name and sentencing hearings. 377 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,280 PUBLIC ACCESS TO LEGAL INFORMATION 378 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,920 INFORMATION ABOUT LITIGATION 379 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,920 -Was it the 4th yesterday? -Yes. 380 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,400 - He was in court. -Was he in court yesterday? 381 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,840 He was in court for assault minor and was talking to someone else. 382 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,880 First appearance. So the trial is not even started yet. 383 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,400 He has not met any consequences yet. 384 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,640 -When was he coming to visit? -Next Wednesday. 385 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,760 He plans this between the dates of the trial. 386 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:22,520 HELLO. CAN YOU FACETIME SOON? I MISS YOU 387 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,160 YES 388 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,320 The video interview with Skyggen should start very soon. 389 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,320 Major Flowers has told us to proceed with communicating with the Shadow. 390 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,000 We try to determine that he has a behavior pattern. 391 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,360 When we can deliver a body of damning evidence- 392 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,320 - becomes an important part of the case against him in Maricopa County. 393 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,200 ISABEL, 20 YEARS OLD AGE OF THE DOUBLE: 12 YEARS 394 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,480 - Hello. -Hello. 395 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,840 We need to talk about something. 396 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,520 Two years ago I was supposed to meet someone, and there was a police action. 397 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,360 -What is it? -I talked to a... 398 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:24,040 ...who was a year older than you, but it was a cop, not a 13 year old. 399 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,400 The situation is that I do not must talk to anyone under the age of 18. 400 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,840 Oh. Are you going to jail or something? 401 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,520 I hope not. I try to stay away. 402 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,800 If I end up in jail, can't we be together 403 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,320 They can give me a deal, which may include a suspended sentence. 404 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:50,160 If I can get a job there, can i move there 405 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,560 Then you can talk to your mother... I know not if she wants to date someone or not. 406 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:01,320 I might try to date her, but actually be with you. 407 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,680 I want to be with you. The best would be to move in with you. 408 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,640 -And be under surveillance. -What do you mean? 409 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,360 Do you see the anklet? 410 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,000 Do you want to have sex with my mom and me? 411 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,320 I'd rather just have sex with you, to be honest. 412 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,400 When the Shadow talks to Abby, It is incredibly insidious. Terrifying. 413 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:32,040 His master plan is to start dating Abby's mom- 414 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,040 - so he can move into the house to have sex with Abby. 415 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,040 That's his plan with a 12-year-old. 416 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,240 -So... -When will you do it? 417 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,720 As soon as possible... 418 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:58,720 Someone is calling. i don't know who it is. I have to hang up. 419 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,800 -Wait a minute. I'll call you back. -Goodbye. 420 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,880 What he does with Abby in the conversation, is wrong in every way. 421 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,000 He knows he must not have access to the net. 422 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,240 He can get into trouble, if anyone overhears him. 423 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,920 He violates so many boundaries to talk to Abby. 424 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,720 -Hello. -Hello. Sorry. 425 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,080 What happened? 426 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,720 It was the bailiff, with whom I had to speak. 427 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,880 I can't just ask her to to come back later. 428 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,640 How long should you have the anklet on? 429 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:47,320 I don't know that. Until they take it of, or I flee the country. 430 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,360 If I leave the country, I'll take you with me. 431 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,360 Many are against a relationship like ours. 432 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:02,520 But if we are both happy and want it, what's the problem? 433 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:09,160 If I drive through Oklahoma, can you get into my car 434 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,120 We'll figure it out. 435 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:14,250 436 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,800 -How far away are you? -About 30 seconds. 437 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,200 After looking at the messages between our decoy and the Player- 438 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:30,920 -drives officers out to question him. 439 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,240 NAME: THE PLAYER 440 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,120 ATTEMPTED ADULTERY WITH A MINOR 441 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,000 IDENTITY: KNOWN 442 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,520 POLICE STATION 443 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:44,600 We confronted the Player and said, the decoy was missing. 444 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,960 He was worried and wanted to talk with us. It was good- 445 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,040 -for he gave us a full confession. 446 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,920 We took the chance and informed Oklahoma City- 447 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,160 -and they arrested him and left him in our care. 448 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,440 You identified yourself immediately on Omegle as... 449 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,760 -A 21-year-old man. -And what was her answer? 450 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:13,240 She replied, that she was a girl of 14 years. 451 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,320 -You knew right away that she was 14? -Yes. 452 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,560 Tell about the conversation with her about oral sex. 453 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:25,280 I talked about dreaming about that she performed oral sex on me. 454 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,120 I went into detail. I shouldn't have done that. 455 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:34,640 During the conversations and text messages about a possible meeting... 456 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:40,240 Did you comment: "If we can find a discreet way"? 457 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,920 -Yes. - So if the opportunity had presented itself... 458 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,760 That you could meet in a discreet way, so would you like to meet her? 459 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,400 I don't think so. 460 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,720 I think the distance the web provides made me more confident. 461 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,360 I became brave. The hormones. You know I'm a young man. 462 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,440 You said it was the first time you were talking to a minor. 463 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,840 It was not an illegal conversation. I talked to a 14 year old recently. 464 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,200 - Do you remember her name? - Uh... 465 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,400 If you knew that conversation with Mackenzie was illegal... Right? 466 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,640 -Why did you continue with...? - I was just talking to... 467 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,360 You will enter the detention center here. 468 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:38,440 You are charged with attempted fornication with minor via electronic devices. 469 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:45,040 It is a serious charge. You must learn from it. You are still very young. 470 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,640 You must learn from this and don't make the same mistake. 471 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,960 - Terrifying. -Yes, I understand. 472 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:01,560 But this is not over. It is an opportunity to learn. 473 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:07,480 If he is convicted of attempted fornication, can result in up to ten years in prison. 474 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:13,040 The bail can be 25,000 dollars. It is a sex crime. 475 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,120 He ends up on the criminal register the rest of life. 476 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,360 He must be imprisoned and kept away from society. 477 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:26,800 Maybe he should get treatment. Something that can make him normal- 478 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,160 - so he can get out again in society and be productive. 479 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:32,840 And not a violator, who hunt our children. 480 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:40,080 Breathe deeply. It will probably work. Okay? 481 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:45,400 I know you're probably a little scared right now. But listen- 482 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,560 -I want you to feel good. I will. 483 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:56,000 I want you to come out after judgment and creates a life for you. 484 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:03,000 Do you understand? Create a good life for yourself. Keep hope up and get through it. 485 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:08,560 Okay? Support your family and faith, if you are a believer. 486 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:15,520 Show us and everyone that you can. You are appreciated, okay? 487 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,840 You have a value. You must know that. You will get through this. 488 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,320 Never port on this side of the law again, okay? 489 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,320 -Okay. - Have a good time. Thanks. 490 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,640 It is good to have grace and blessing in the heart. 491 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:45,000 We must have hope. We pray he was just stupid. 492 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,640 Unfortunately, we know that this is not the case. 493 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,920 After the decoy, he wanted to move on to another 14-year-old. 494 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,680 If we hadn't intervened, had we seen in a month- 495 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,800 -that a real 14-year-old had fallen victim to the Player. 496 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,160 NAME: THE SHADOW 497 00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:14,160 ATTEMPTED ADULTERY WITH A MINOR 498 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,120 IDENTITY: KNOWN 499 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,200 SOSA HEADQUARTERS 500 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,880 I'M CONSIDERING COMING NEXT WEEK 501 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,800 BUT I'M A LITTLE SCARED FOR SUB-COVER AGENTS 502 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:29,360 CAN YOU SEND MORE PICTURES, SO I KNOW YOU'RE NOT AN OFFICER? 503 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,880 I WANT YOU SO MUCH WHEN I SEE THE PICTURE 504 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,680 The shadow still writes with Abby and says he wants to meet her. 505 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,440 “I want to meet you to have sex with you." 506 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,760 But he also says he's nervous. 507 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,920 The shadow speaks in great terms, especially regarding leaving the country. 508 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,920 It doesn't seem like he thought to serve any sentence. 509 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,680 We have to keep Abby's identity completely hidden. If he gets scared- 510 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,880 -and think this is a police action, can he escape. 511 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,880 Then he is not responsible for any of the crimes. 512 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,880 The Shadow wants a conversation right now. 513 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,960 He emphasizes, that you should call him "Daddy". 514 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,280 i don't know if you have to say it in the interview... 515 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,240 Respond immediately with, "Hi, Daddy." Just like that. Okay? 516 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,640 -Okay. - You can. 517 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,640 -Hello. -How are you, Daddy? 518 00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:28,360 -Well. What about you, princess? -Well. 519 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,280 -You are as beautiful as ever. -Thanks. 520 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,440 Is your mother home now? 521 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,520 I thought so since you are in the living room. 522 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,200 I don't think she had FaceTimed with me in the living room. 523 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,920 Are you looking forward to next week? 524 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,880 And that's perfectly fine for you to be naked and have sex and such? 525 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,760 Okay. I don't want to come across a police officer again. 526 00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,600 - I don't think you're a cop, but... -Why should I be? 527 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,040 - I don't know that. -So you're actually coming? 528 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:07,840 -Yes. -Okay. 529 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,880 I'll call you on FaceTime, when I am outside the housing complex. 530 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:19,760 - Then you can let me in. - Do you think we can meet at...? 531 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,200 - The gas station? -Why do you want to meet there? 532 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,120 I usually cycle there and such. 533 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,120 It just feels safer. 534 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,280 What bike do you have? 535 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,800 It is purple. 536 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,640 Is it outside or inside the apartment? 537 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:50,520 No, I have it inside. 538 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,440 Do you want to show it to me? 539 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:58,800 Perhaps. 540 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,480 Oh, I have to go. Sorry. 541 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,080 - Jeez! - That was a difficult question. 542 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,320 I didn't know what i was supposed to say. 543 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:21,120 Don't know why he wanted to see my bicycle. Excuse me. 544 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:27,080 When talking to a potential infringes, it is difficult to know 545 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,000 -what they are going to ask. The talk stressed me out. 546 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,240 He'll probably get suspicious, because I don't show him the bike. 547 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,880 It scares me, that he doesn't think Abby is real anymore. 548 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,520 The shadow hasn't written all day. I'm afraid he's blocked us. 549 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,200 -Did you try calling? -No. We don't have that. 550 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:56,960 Are you calling someone who has blocked you you, it rings a few times. 551 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,400 If you get the answer, you have been blocked. 552 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,760 - Maybe we should try calling. -Okay. 553 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,640 The worst that can happen now- 554 00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:11,280 -is that he gets scared and slips away, or that we must delete Abby's account. 555 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,200 These are the worst case scenarios. especially because he wants to escape. 556 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,360 I hope this one mistake doesn't spoil the whole thing- 557 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,280 - and that it is not over with the Shadow. 558 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,280 Your conversation will be forwarded to the answering machine. 559 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,400 -She is not blocked. -No. It kept ringing. 560 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,720 It may be he has run out of data. 561 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,880 At 10 pm yesterday he said: "I'm getting ready for work." 562 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:49,800 He is a truck driver and can be a remote place... 563 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,520 -...where there may not be coverage. -Yes. 564 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,840 - Wait a minute. -What? 565 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,080 The shadow made contact. 566 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,600 CAN YOU PROVE YOU'RE NOT AN OFFICER? 567 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,120 THAT'S WHY I WOULD HAVE NUDE PICTURES 568 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,320 SO I KNOW YOU ARE A REAL 12 YEAR OLD, WHO WILL BE WITH ME 569 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,400 I TRY TO CONTROL MYSELF BUT YOU MAKE ME SO HAPPY 570 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,120 I communicate with the Shadow now. 571 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,680 Do you think he will be suspicious of that I don't show the bike? 572 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,760 He is suspicious and he acts quite obsessed. 573 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,640 He wants pictures to know you are not an officer. 574 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:34,400 We have to be careful with FaceTime. 575 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,200 I WILL MAKE THIS WORK 576 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,240 BUT SEX WITH A 12-YEAR-OLD IS ILLEGAL 577 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,640 THAT'S WHY I AM A LITTLE HESITANT 578 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:45,920 I DON'T UNDERSTAND 579 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,040 I AM NOT ALLOWED TO TALK WITH CHILDREN ONLINE 580 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,360 I DO BOTH LET'S TALK AND FIND IT OUT 581 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,760 -How do you feel about the conversation? -Fine. 582 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,960 Okay. Answer the call and say hello. 583 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,000 You control it. It is you who has taken over. 584 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,240 If he does something strange, you finish. 585 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,000 - We can cover it up. - Understood. 586 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,400 -Hello. -Hello. 587 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:29,640 I am very careful. I don't want to run into the police again. 588 00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:31,240 I don't think you're a cop. 589 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,440 But I have it in the back of my mind with everything that happens. 590 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,920 i don't like you assume all these things. 591 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,600 Wouldn't you rather be with one at your own age? I am 12 years old. 592 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,440 If that's fine with you, and you're happy, I don't care. 593 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,400 i love you 594 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,120 Okay. 595 00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:01,720 Will you still be my girlfriend? 596 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:08,960 - Just don't ignore me again. -Okay. I have to make it right again. 597 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,640 Isabel was good. We restored the Shadow's trust. 598 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,400 CCSO shares the information with Maricopa County- 599 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,160 -so our job is to ensure, that the evidence we gather leads to- 600 00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:24,800 - that he must be responsible for all the crimes he has committed. 601 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,280 You're not filming this, are you? Are you recording it? 602 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,800 THE SHADOW IS IN PRISON NOW 603 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,160 NEW CHARGE: INDECENT PROPOSAL OF A CHILD 604 00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:41,240 HE WILL SERVE 20 MORE YEARS IN PRISON 605 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,360 THE PLAYER IS RELEASED ON BAIL 606 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,200 CHARGE: ATTEMPT FORNICATION WITH A MINOR 607 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,760 -VIA TECHNOLOGICAL DEVICES 608 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,880 HE MAY RECEIVE THE MAXIMUM PUNISHMENT FOR TEN YEARS IN PRISON 609 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,120 THE KNIFE MAKER CONFESSED POSSESSION OF CHILD PORN 610 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,200 -AND ATTEMPTED FORNICATION WITH A MINOR VIA TECHNOLOGICAL DEVICES 611 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,280 HE GOT FOUR YEARS IN PRISON 612 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,920 HE IS CURRENTLY SITTING IN PRISON 613 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,000 Lyrics: LinQ Media Group